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[ 1 ] Vložil: Jirka Cech – [ WWW ] – 2.1.2007 3:03

no, nekteri z nas uz davno pryc jsou :-)

[ 2 ] Vložil: Martin – [ WWW ] – 2.1.2007 9:43

[1] A jsi spokojený s rozhodnutím jít pryč? Já bych řekl, že ano. Protože u nás bys rozhodně takové možnosti jako venku neměl.

[ 3 ] Vložil: kolisko – 2.1.2007 23:58

Diky za skvelej clanek a poznamky o tom, jak je dulezite vybirat firmu podle firemni kultury a ze zamestnei je silne o lidech kolem.

Mel bych jen dve poznamky: vyska platu je relativni. 3 000 Eur to je po prepoctu na koruny pekna sumicka, ale specialne na Britskych ostrovech jsou naklady na zivot nekde uplne jinde nez u nas. To je treba taky brat v uvahu.

Druha poznamka se tyka 'odlivu mozku' ke kterymu clanek tak trochu vybizi. Myslim, ze neni mozne porad jenom nekam utikat za lepsim. Bylo by super, kdyby se darilo v zahranici nabite zkusenosti uplatnovat taky u nas. Problem je v tom, ze u nas navratilci nejsou moc dobre prijimani. Treba o Polacich se rika, ze umi vyuzit svych krajanu a navratilcu daleko lepe.

Jak je uzitecne, kdyz se lidi vraci je videt treba na prikladu Spanelska. Na konci frankovy vlady a nejakou dobu po jejim padu utikala vedecka inteligence zejmena do USA. Po nejake dobe se ji cast vratila a ted je Spanelsko velmoc ve vyzkumu neuralni listy a neuro science obecne (a urcite i v dalsich oborech, to ale nemuzu z vlastni zkusenosti tvrdit).

[ 4 ] Vložil: ZED – [ WWW ] – 3.1.2007 21:57

Clanek je velmi inspirujici. Libi se mi.

kolisko> Nemuzes po lidech chtit, aby tu zustavali, protoze mohou obohatit svoji zemi. Je vsak pravda, ze oni se vetsinou vrati, volani domova je silne.

[ 5 ] Vložil: Jirka Cech – [ WWW ] – 4.1.2007 21:42

[4] jenze je bohuzel pravdou i to spatne prijimani, ja uz jsem venku pres 5 let (Nemecko a USA), jsem vedec, fyzik a necitim, ze by mne v Cesku nekdo cekal. Spis dost nechut a obavy z toho, ze bych jim chtel zavadet novoty, nanotechnologie a aplikacni veci a ze kdyz nejake pracoviste uz od zacatku perestrojky resi jak udelat amorfni materialy pro opticky zapis (system CD-ROM a presneji CD-RW) musi to preci vedet lip jak ja a to, ze uz to je 30 let objevene, 20 let patentovane a 15 let na trhu, to je nikterak nerozhodi...

Nemam chut probijet se pres kamaradsofty mistni zkorumpovane grantove agentury, kde se penize davaj protoze se kazdy s nekym zna a ne na perspektivni napady. A nechci misto badani vypisovat tabulky v Excelu pro MSMT, aby to pak nekdo vratil, ze podle noveho predpisu (hodme to na EU) se nove musi ve vsech tabulkach 7 let zpatky doplnit rodne cislo resitele nebo tak...proc to ma delat badatel a nedoplni to liny urednik???

[ 6 ] Vložil: Martin – [ WWW ] – 11.1.2007 0:12

[3] Máš pravdu 3 tisíce EUR není v některých zemích mnoho. Nyní nevím, jaké platy nabízí společnosti z UK a podobných dražších zemí.

S odlivem mozků je to těžké. Domnívám se, že každý, kdo odejde pracovat na vyšší úrovni do zahraničí, může být zpětně Česku prospěšný. Pokud samozřejmě z nějakého důvodu na svou vlast nezanevře. Získané znalosti a zkušeností, které by tady nezískal, může uplatnit později opět tady a velmi tím k rozvoji naší země přispět. Třeba už jen tím, že sem přinesou lepší způsoby jednání. Ale také jejich peníze hrají významnou roli.

Z mého pohledu je lepší, když se kdokoliv seberealizuje v zahraničí, než aby se omezoval z nějakých vlasteneckých důvodů. Z toho může plynout jen pocit nespokojenosti a rozčarování.

Rozhodně s myšlenkou Tvého komentáře souhlasím.

[5] To je docela síla. Pěkná exkurze do českých poměrů.

[ 7 ] Vložil: Čtenář – 25.8.2007 6:36

Váš blog je opravdu lepší než 21. století. Líbí se mi, že než napíšete nový článek uběhne několik měsíců a tím je kvalita zajištěna.

[ 8 ] Vložil: petraRuzova – 22.12.2007 19:03

Dobrý den, potřebovala bych poradit s hledanim zamestnani-nemam s tim doposud zadne zkusenosti a opravdu si nevim rady- prozatim jsem se zaregistrovala na nekolika pracovnich portalech www.pracw.cz, www.prace-rychle.cz atd. ale co dál??

Poradte mi prosim.

Petra R.

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Som prvak na vysokej skole, co nieje nic, to je kazdy druhy, ale po tomto clanku mam vazne chut do ucenia. Urcite si ho ulozim a pri mojej lenivosti si ho pred ucenim vzdy precitam. Pacila sa mi cast s tim ako autor narazil na dost velky problem dneska a teda na to ako berie pracu drviva vacsina ludi. Je to bohuzial tak. Dakujem za clanok je pre mna silno motivujuci.

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